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„Sportas“ nelygu „eSportas“?

2013-03-13 22:51:23
Straipsnis: GAMING
Vis modernėjant technologijoms pokyčių pastebime visur: buityje, darbe, medicinoje. Tačiau viena kategorija ypač konservatyviai žiūri į technologijų įtaką kasdieniam gyvenimui. „Sportas yra sportas ir viskas tuo pasakyta“ – subamba dažnas, tačiau technologijos sparčiai veržiasi ir į šią terpę, siekdamos sukurti naują nišą inovatyviems dalykams. Pikti konservatyvūs dėdės plaka liežuviais, kad kompiuterastams nėra vietos, tarp raumeningų atletų, o kiti tykiai bando kompiuterinį sportą įtraukti į olimpinių rungčių sąrašą. Aišku viena, kad sportas, kokį mes jį įsivaizduojame dabar – ilgai toks nebus.

Kas tas eSportas?
Kiekvieną, nors kiek senesnių pažiūrų žmogų, supažindinus su savoka „eSportas“, teks paaiškinti šio keisto žodžio prasmę. Paaiškinus greičiausiai gausime automatišką, visuomenės užprogramuotą reakciją – piršto pasukiojimą prie smilkinio. Nežinantiems aiškinu, kad eSportas – tai sporto šaka, kurios erdvė yra kompiuteriniai žaidimai. Kalbėdami apie kiber-atletą, mes kalbame apie žmogų, kuris per dieną praleidžia gerą laiko dalį sėdėdamas prie kompiuterinių žaidimų treniruodamasis savo įgūdžius. Prieš pradedant jums putotis, kad kompiuterinių žaidimų žaidėjai negali būti vadinami sportininkais, nes yra stori nerd‘ai sėdintys prie kompiuterio, verta aptarti keletą dalykų, kurie galbūt pakeis jūsų požiūrį į tuos, kurie nuoširdžiai domisi elektroniniu sportu.


Kiberatletams būtinas fizinis pasirengimas?
Tai daugelį kamuojantis klausimas, nes vis tik išgirdus sąvoką sportas, mes automatiškai įsivaizduojame fizinę veiklą. Nors daugeliui šis dalykas atrodo visiškai nesuvokiamas, bet kompiuterinių žaidimų žaidėjams fizinis pasirengimas yra kur kas svarbesnis negu jau seniau sportu pripažintoms disciplinoms – šachmatai, dart’ai, bilijardas ir t.t. Pačioje eSporto pasaulio širdyje, Pietų Korėjoje, profesionaliems kompiuterinių žaidimų žaidėjams yra keliami fizinio pasirengimo reikalavimai. Jiems privaloma bėgioti, plaukioti ir kilnoti svarmenis. Visi šie, iš pirmo žvilgsnio nereikalingi užsiėmimai yra skirti tam, kad sėdint ilgą laiką prie kompiuterio, žaidėjų organizmas nenusilptų. Matyt teko girdėti karts nuo karto spaudoje pasirodančių pranešimų apie mirtis nuo kompiuterinių žaidimų. Visa tai tikrai neneša garbės eSportą propaguojančioms organizacijoms ir vis daugiau jų rimtai pradeda žiūrėti ne tik į žaidėjų gebėjimus žaidime, bet ir į jų fizinį pasirengimą. Turint omenyje tai, kad eSportas dar tik augimo stadijoje, įvaizdis visuomenėje ypač svarbus.


Ar toks sportas populiarus?
Taip. Kad geriau įsivaizduotumėte, siūlau pažiūrėti video štai čia, su tiksliais skaičiukais, kiek tokiuose renginiuose dalyvauja žmonių iš viso pasaulio.



Žinoma video ne naujas, o pastarųjų metų renginiai šluosto nosis visiems iki tol buvusiems tačiau galima susidaryti gana neblogą įspūdį apie renginių populiarumą. Taip pat ne ką mažiau žaidėjų stebi internetines transliacijas. Kiekvieną savaitę vykstantys renginiai pritraukia net kelis milijonus unikalių žiūrovų. Štai paskutinę Intel Extreme Masters turnyro transliaciją, per visą savaitgalį matė 53,539,583 unikalių žiūrovų. XXI amžiaus skaičiai….


Tai tikriausiai ir pinigėliai nemaži?
Tikrai nesinori meluoti, nes tikslios sumos nėra viešinamos, tačiau turint omenyje renginių dažnumą ir populiarumą, pinigų organizatoriams netrūksta. O ir patys renginiai vis tampa kokybiškesni bei vis daugiau į juos investuojama. Žinoma, neišvengiama komercijos, tačiau leiskite paklausti koks populiarus sportas apsieina be jos? Būtent komercija apmoka žaidėjų išlaidas, bei sąskaitas. Dažnam lietuviui ypač keista, kaip galima užsidirbti žaidžiant kompiuterinį žaidimą, dar keisčiau pasidaro išgirdus tai, kad profesionalių žaidėjų uždarbis yra apie 10 tūkstančių litų per mėnesį… Žinoma neskaitant lėšų, gautų laimėjus turnyrus.


Tai vis tik tai sportas ar ne?

„Sportas – specifinė fizinių ar intelektinių užsiėmimų rūšis. Juo siekiama varžytis, (pa)gerinti sveikatą, gauti moralinį ir materialinį pasitenkinimą, išreikšti save, tobulinti(s), siekti garbės ir šlovės.“ -informacija iš Vikipedijos. Taigi taip… Kompiuterinių žaidimų žaidimas yra sportas. Galbūt ne toks sportas, kad visuomenė jį lengvai priimtų ir mes jo discipliną matytume 2016 metų olimpinėse žaidynėse, tačiau tai tik laiko klausimas. Jei geras kompiuterinių žaidimų žaidėjas laiko save atletu, tai tegu… Jis neturi būti smerkiamas už tai, kad eikvoja savo laiką bei stengiasi tapti geriausiu. Štai jums gyvas pavyzdys.



Gi XXI amžius ir būti tokiems užsikonservavusiais visoms naujovėms ganėtinai keista…
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Parašė: DueLL
Radagavo: Mindaugas, 2013-03-14 07:59:22
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WuKis [PM]
13 03 14 00:42 #1
Man tai čia dar vienas, po truputį, visuomenės transformavimas į kašką išsigimusio. Kaip gėjai jau darosi normalu, tai ir žaidimai pataps sportu vos ne. Juk tai luošina žmones. Jaunuoliai vis labiau paliege darosi, kuriasi toki mokymai kuriuose mokina jaunuolius kaip pakabint panele, kaip bendraut su žmonėm. Žaidimai tas pats kaip lažybos yra ten keli procentai kurie laimi ir aš juos myliu, tačiau like kite procentai yra suluošinti, priklausomi ir nematantys nieko aplink, o kas baisiausia, kad to nepastebintys. Kaip patarlė: baisiausias velnias yra tas kurį laikai draugu.
Profesionalai visose srityse yra tikri žemės puošmenos, bet reik pirma turėt profesionalų požiūrį į gyvenimą. VA OCELOTE MLDC , šaunūs tėvai, matosi jis bet ką gyvenime gali pasiekt.
eSports|DueLL [PM]
13 03 14 00:53 #2
Tai ir priklauso nuo požiūrio paties į gyvenimą, kad ir apie tą patį geimingą... nesieksi ir nepasieksi, tas pats ir su darbu... tie kurie svajoje, kai užaugs bus IT specialistais, turės firmą, ar bus direktoriai valstybinėje įmonėje, bet niekas ant lėkštutės napatiekiama, turi pats įsidėti, kitaip tariant, įdėti savo triūso, vargo ir paaukoti kažkiek, o gal ir daug brangaus laiko :)
Slayer [PM]
13 03 14 01:04 #3
Luosina zmones tik patys zmones.

Jei zmogus bus nemastantis, netures jokiu planu ir nesupras ka daro, tai jam zaidimu tikrai nereikes kad susigadintu gyvenima. Tai kad esportas butu pripazintas kaip sportas, tures 0 itakos tam. Durniai ras kaip susinaikint, protingi zmones ir taip zino kad tai visu 100% tinka i apibrezima \"sportas\".

Straipsnij tiesiog bando apsviest zmones kad tai yra ateitis ir uztikrinta ateitis.

WuKis jei lyginsi savo senoviskais poziuriais \"gejai dabar normalu\". Juodaodziai irgi, ar tau geriau buvo kai jie vergai buvo? Ar tau irgi geriau kai moterys teisiu neturejo? Viskas eina i prieki, pasaulis tik laukia kol ismirs senu paziuriu zmones, nes nauju paziuru nesustabdys niekas. Arba susitaikysi arba mirsi galvodamas kaip \"pasaulis sudegradavo\".

Technologijos skatina progresa, sito jau neisvengsi ir nereikia to isvengt. Esportas eis tik i prieki, jau dabar vis daugiau laiko visi praleidzia prie kompu/elektroniniu irenginiu, to nereikia bijot, reikia sviesti visuomene ir mokytis gyventi su technologija. Butent tokia ir buvo to straipsnio uzduotis. Padeti sviesti visuomene kad nebijoto to kas neisvengiamai ateina.
eSports|DueLL [PM]
13 03 14 01:17 #4
Aš dar pamenu laikus, kai nebuvo mobiliųjų telefonų, daugelis kas apsilanko čia, iš kur jie gali atsiminti tokius laikus, kai yra jauni, ir gimę nepriklausomoje Lietuvoje :P Šiuo metu tai taip, realiai tai ką dirbu, 50 proc savo darbo šiuo metu galiu atlikti pasiėmęs savo galaxy Note, kur nors sustojęs šalikelyje jei važiuoju į kokį tai objektą... labai patogu, visos vaizdo stebėjimo stuff per androidinius appsus matomi, apsaugos namų signalizacijos valdomos appsais telefonu ir gana modernios su labai daug f-jų, kas seniau galėjo pagalvoti, kad televizoriai tokie bus ploni, aš pats pamenu kai tėvai turėjo šilelį ir labai džiaugėmės, nes rodė spalvotai... na vienu žodžiu, palaukite dar 10 metų, IT ženks didelį žingsnį, progresija rodo, kad IT turėtų perkopti dideliu šuoliu nuo 2013-2014 iki ~2015, kaip žinia, kas mokėsi apie informacines sistemas, kad progresija padvigubėja kas 5 metai ;) tad kas toliau laukia mūsų nežinia, bet aišku viena, jog tai bus naujovė iš technologijų eros... :)
sjalvbelaten|JUN9LE [PM]
13 03 14 01:56 Redaguota: 2013-03-14 02:37 #5
Straipsnis tikrai geras, bet kodėl šaltini nenurodei? :)
eSports|Mindaugas [PM]
13 03 14 07:58 #6
Matomai pamirso, nes vakar buvau dar minejes jog reikia nurodyt .
Luis [PM]
13 03 14 08:10 #7
WuKis, o tai du debilai žalojantys vienas kito sveikatą ringe ir milijonai į tai žiūrintys kaip į sportą, ar tai neišsigimėliška?
andr [PM]
13 03 14 10:21 #8
Komentaras buvo ištrintas dėl taisyklių nesilaikymo
WuKis [PM]
13 03 14 10:54 #9
Jūs visi daugmaž teisingai šnekat, kad svarbiausia požiūris. Jeigu tu neadekvačiai kaškuo užsiiminėsi, tai tave žalos. Savaime žaidimai nėra blogis, tačiau parodykit jūs man tą ribą tarp priklausomybės ir noro būti, na , žaidimų žaidėju. Iš esmės žaidimai yra
puiki priemonė paliegeliams ar šeip kokių problemų gyvenime turintiems žmonėms. Kaškas blogai? Jautiesi menkavertiškas? Eik nukalk kokį gaidį , nespręsk savo bėdų, bet kaip sykis bėk nuo jų, masturbuodamas savo tą komplekso gydymą. Bėk nuo savęs, nuo savęs pažinimo.
Nėra tai kaškas išskirtinio tie žaidimai ir nevertinkit jūs jų kaip kaško išskirtinio ta linkme veikiančio. Turim ir pinigus ir valdžia ir iš vis visą buržuazinę santvarką ir kas baisiausia ŽMONIŲ buržuazinį mąstymą, kai materialumas nugali visa kita. Turi užsiėmimų , bet jie neneša naudos? Eik naxhui su savo pomėgiais ir susirask darbą. (Tėvai auklėja vaikus).
Nemuškit manęs, kad per daug radikaliai pavariau, tačiau taip dabar yra ir žaidimai daugiau žalos neša nei naudos. NES mes per maži, per mažas mūsų kaip žmonių suvokimas, kad gyventume gerai, kad galėtume turėt tą adekvatų požiūrį į žaidimus, kad valgytume tiek kiek mums reikia, o ne tiek, kad mažintumėmės skrandžius dėl per didelio nutukimo ir tinginystės būt žmogum, o ne gyvuliu. Aš už jus mielieji, kad jūs darytumėt, ką jūs norit, jeigu tik tai nėra priklausomybė ar tarnavimas kaškam kitam išskyrus sau. Sveikinu, kas tokį turit ir sveikinu tuos žmones kurie bando žaidimus paverst kaškuo ne žalą nešančiu.

#4 Ką turi tuo ir reikia džiaugtis, kokioj aplinkoj esi tokia ir reikia priimt. Teisingas požiūris. Tik jau plz,... Nereikia vertint tos aplinkos ar technologijų kaip stabų.. Čia nori pasakyt rodiklis, kad visi vis daugiau laiko praleidžia prie kompų? Kad kaškoks dalbajobas mcdonalde su planšetiniu kompu , verslininkas-wannabe, skaito delfi tai čia rodiklis? Kad vaikai su stiklinėm akim grajina, čia rodiklis? Galiu varyt ir varyt, bet kad tas laiko praleidimas nėra joks rodiklis tai faktas. Fikcinė situacija: Visas pasaulis ruoštųsi karui ir ten ginkluotųsi, tai ir man reikia ania?? Neisiu, tegu prie sienos stato. Tas pats ir su eSportu, koks čia rodiklis, kad jis augs ir augs blia nusišikt. Liečiant išgyvenimo klausimas ties tuo karo pavyzdžiu ar kad technologijų amžium, tai faktas, kad reikia prisitaikyt jei nori išgyvent ir dar ir sočiai gyvent. Tačiau kur mes su tokiu zombiniu mąstymu nueisim? Kad jau yra tai turi būt to dalim? Lošk, niekas nedraudžia palankios situacijos išnaudot, bet jei tu tai sureikšmini kaip kašką būtino ir nepriklausomo, kad būtinai reikia būt to dalim tai sėkmės, galėsi savo anūkam rodyt per planšetę kaip pentakill įvarei. O dėl pastraipos man tai neturiu net ką ataskyt, nes nieko nėra debiliškiau nei išankstinis nusistatymas, ypač ištraukus iš konteksto kelis žodžius.

#7 Atsiradimas šio dalyko visiškai normalus. Nebuvo nei minutės taikos žemėje. Tai ko tu nori? Nevyksta kova, padarysim kovas legalias. Jei jau klausi manęs ar man patinka kai žmonės sąmoningai žaloja viens kitą? Tai ne, man nepatinka.
Slayer [PM]
13 03 14 12:25 #10
Labai daug problemu kurias WuKis turi su visa sita tema, galima butu isspresti vaikams gavus geresni auklejima ir gyvenant ne lietuvoje.

Geresni auklejima galima gaut tik jei tevai bus informuoti ir supras sita dalyka. Tada aukles atitinkamai, kad vaikas nebutu tik \"zombis zaidziantis kiaura para\".

Taciau sitas: \"Aš už jus mielieji, kad jūs darytumėt, ką jūs norit, jeigu tik tai nėra priklausomybė ar tarnavimas kaškam kitam išskyrus sau.\"

Tai turetu buti mokoma kiekvieno tevo, kiekvienoj mokykloj, kiekvienam vaikui.
Taciau tai labai plati savoka, ir tas pats homoseksualumas kuri tu minejai kaip bloga dalyka ir panasiai, tai irgi ieina i ta tavo parasyta savoka.
eSports|DueLL [PM]
13 03 14 18:52 #11
#5-#6, jap, pamiršau nurodyti šaltinį... :)
CITIZEN [PM]
13 03 14 19:05 #12
manau, kad esporta sportu laiko tik tokie, kurie patys nera sportave truputi rimciau to tikrojo sporto (futbolo,krepsinio, imtyniu, lengvosios atletikos, bokso ir t.t)
kadangi sportuoti - tai lyg ir buti populiariu kazkokiam tai draugu, pazystamu tarpe, tai esporter\'iai bando save pritempt prie tu sportininku ir tapti kazkuo kitu, o ne eiliniu po 8 valandas prie kompiuterio praleidzianciu jaunuoliu.
nors ir atzaidziau nemazai zaidimu, praleidau daugybe valandu prie to pacio cs\'o, bet esporto sportu niekada nelaikiau, nelaikau, bet gal teks kazkada laikyt ?!

ps. cia mano nuomone ir ji tikrai nebutinai turi buti teisinga :)
Slayer [PM]
13 03 14 20:14 #13
#12 bet tu supranti kad \"sportas\" savoka buvo paaiskinta ka reiskia net tame straipsnyj. Tai kad tu galvoji kazkaip kitaip ar interpretuoji kas yra sportas kitaip, nepakeicia to, kas is tikro yra sportas.

\"tikras sportas\" pagal tave yra fizinis sportas, o tai tiesiog neteisybe ir iskraipymas savokos.
Kaip sakant, nuomone turet yra gerai, bet faktas yra faktas. Sporto apibrezimas aiskus ir tikslus.

Zinoma nereikia maisyti zaidimo video zaidimu, su dalyvavimu turnyruose ir treniruotemis ar panasiai.
Tai kad kazkas zais angry birds su mobiliu, nereiskia kad sportininkas bus.
kkoult [PM]
13 03 14 23:06 #14
siaip suprantu abi jusu puses wukis bando labiau yrodinet, kad esportas nera sportas o kodel? Gi del to manau, kad jis is jo nieko negauna jis paprastas ziurovas, o slayer gina del to nes jis nera tik ziurovas ir jos visam tam esporte dalyvauja. Maunau kiek vienas teigu, kad esportas yra sportas jei jame dalyvautu ir gautu is jo kazka :)
WuKis [PM]
13 03 15 02:28 #15
AI..... Ištiesų.... Reikia man nusileist ant žemės ir pradėt gyvent normaliai prisitaikius, o ne sapaliojus apie kaškokias senienas. Einu susirasiu žmona vardu Andrejus ir kartu sportuosim kol pakilsim iki diamong I diviziono, o jūs čia pūkit prie kompų cs lošdami, aš einu sportuot top lane LOL\'e su Andrej, jis tokia grazi. IR NEVARYKIT!!!! O PRISITAIKYKIT!!! ARBA IR LIKSIT LOPSARDOKAIS KURIE NET EMIGRAVE NEBUVO LOOOOOL
andr [PM]
13 03 15 10:31 #16
#15 +1
Slayer [PM]
13 03 15 13:13 #17
#15 #16 abu kaip matau praleido esme to ka WuKis pats pasake:

\"Aš už jus mielieji, kad jūs darytumėt, ką jūs norit, jeigu tik tai nėra priklausomybė ar tarnavimas kaškam kitam išskyrus sau\"

Tad jei tu nori, susirast zmona vardu andrejus, jei tu nori zaisti lola, turi teise tam, ir niekas tau negali priestarauti.

Tai tavo pasakyta fraze, o dabar jai pats priestarauji. Bet manau cia jau normalus pokalbis baiktas, nes dazniausiai vaikai sitaip daro kai pritruksta argumentu arba supranta kad buvo neteisus.
WuKis [PM]
13 03 15 13:53 #18
Nu tu nezibi labai jau didele argumentacija is vis, kad cia su tavim kaska kalbet, tai ir kaliau vini i karsta (as pirmas beto). Trauki frazes is konteksto ir iskraipineji, nei kaip vaikas nei kaip kas, tiesiog kaip su tuo robotu sneket kur automatiskai atsakineja.
O apie tuos andrejus ir t.t Tai klausyk geriau neprisipisinejas prie zodziu. Norai nelygus norams, gi ir pedofilai nori vaikus pist ir banditai ten perlaust koki gaideli ilgaplauki nori.
Tai tik nezinau kaip ivardint, bet turi but sveikas suvokimas ar sveikas zinojimas, kas isvis nera lengvai apibreziama. Jei jau tau gejus normaliais pripazysti, tai pripazink ir pedofilus, bet juk neleis sveikas protas? Pripazinkim tada ir pedofilus ir siamo dvynius normaleis, tuberkuliozininkus normaleis. Koks tarp ju skirtumas? Toks kad vieni gydomi priverstinai, o kiti del issigimstancios visuomenes pripazystami normaleis. As neneigiu, kad jie turi potrauki (istikro) tai paciai lyciai, taciau normaliems pedikams nereikia nei jokiu paradu nei jokiu isivaikinimu jie supranta , kad yra nukrypimas. Pats Zilinskas vienas garsesniu Lietuvos Gejuksciu uzsiemes sia pozicija, kad jokiu budu negalima isivaikinti gejams, nes tai visiskas nukrypimas nuo naturos. O kodel vyksta sis nukrypimas? Nes per gerai gyvenam. Jie jauciasi saugus, tipo gali vaiku turet. ISVESKIT JUOS I NEGYVENAMA SALA VIEN GEJUS IR AS ATLEKSIU PAZET PO SIMTO METU KAIP JIEMS SEKASI GENERUOTIS IR TEST ZMOGAUS GYVYBE. Taip kad tu cia ta savo esporta sportu pripazinsi irgi tik is per gero gyvenimo , net nesugebi pasakyt kas tai yra vadinamasis tavo sportas zaidziant zaidimus, o kas nera. Kuo skiriasi tas vaikinukas kur 3 gth i diena sulosia , bet nori is to litus gaut ir tas kur istiesu gauna is to litus. Kur cia skirtumas? Abu sportiniinkai ane? Man tai nusipist, koks cia pavadinimas, sportas artai esportas. Koks skirtumas.. esme kad vadinamieji kompiuteriniai sportininkai nori save ir kitus apgaut, kad cia viskas normalu. Toks pats pavyzdys ir su gejais ir su visom tom orgnizacijom kurios nieko kito neveikia tik kaip kariauja su viskuo ir visur, feministes visokios t.t Pastebit panasuma ? Butum protingesnis slayeri tai jokiais budais neitum uz sia pozicija, kad tai turi buti vadinama sportu(DABAR), nes tai pateisins paliegusiu vaiku egzistencija, kurie patalogiskai neadekvatus tikrovei. KODEL? TODEL KAD PER ANKSTI!!!! Jeigu tai butu tu paciu vaiku daroma be jokios priklausomybes, be jokio saves zalojimo tai tegu losia, betai gi saiko nera. Ir pagrindine beda, kad per anksti.... Reikia daug daug suvokimo visiems, o ipac tiems geimeriams, kad tai butu pateisinamas uzsiemimas is teigiamos puses. Ble slaijeri, prasau, nepik pavidoli ant manes.
Slayer [PM]
13 03 15 14:25 Redaguota: 2013-03-15 14:30 #19
A tu galvoji kad kai as parasiau \\\"gali daryt ka nori\\\" reiskia gali eit vaikus tvirkint ir zmones lauzyt.
Ok matau protelio kaip ir nera jei jau tokia logika rodai.

Ar tau atrodo kad kai pedofilas pagrobia vaika, tai yra tas pats kai du zmones mylintis vienas kita kazka ten daro kartu?

Ar tu galvoji kad kai prievartautojas isprievartauja moteri tai tas pats kas vyras su zmona mylisi?

Tu jauti bent skirtuma situose dalykuose ar is vis atsilikelis protinis kazkoks esi :) As net negaliu patiket kad reikia paaiskinti kazkam tokius dalykus.

\\\"\\\"Kuo skiriasi tas vaikinukas kur 3 gth i diena sulosia , bet nori is to litus gaut ir tas kur istiesu gauna is to litus. Kur cia skirtumas? Abu sportiniinkai ane?\\\"\\\"
Jei nors paskaitytum mano postus, manau viskas aisku kad as butent priesingai sitam teiginiui sakiau.

Bet kai tu vel gryzti prie \\\"sporto\\\" savokos nesuvokimo, tai nematau tikslo ir apie tai sneket.
Sachmatai ir bilijardas yra sportas. Jei smegenys tavo nesugeba 2+2 sudet tai as niekuom padet negaliu.

O jei toliau pagrindinis argumentas bus \\\"vaikai uzauga paliege\\\" \\\"pradeda vergaut prie pc per anksi\\\",
man gaila kad tavo tevai nesugebejo taves isauklet ir uzaugint kaip normalaus zmogaus.
Turbut jei butum turejes du tecius arba dvi mamas, jos butu padarius geresni darba tave auklejant negu kad dabartiniai tevai kurie akivaizdziai daugiau laiko praleido prie butelio tave musdami negu kad aukledami protinga/dora zmogu.

Cia paskutines sitos pastraipos nepriimk rimtai, cia tik mano sarkastiskas posakis kad gal suveiktu smegenu dalele apie tuos vaiku ivaikinimus ir pan. Bet tuo abejoju.

Anyway, vaikai darys ka nori daryti, jei taps priklausomi nuo mazo amziaus, cia tevu kalte, ne vaiku.
Nuo 10 metu kieme vaikai ir cigaretes rasdavo bandyt rukyt ir panasiai, cia ju kalte irgi taip? Kiek vaiku augo sudinuose namuose ir patys tapo alkoholikais dar net 18 neturedami. Cia vel vaiku kalte taip?
Jei vaikai zaidzia zaidimus ir visa gyvenima susivaro mazo amziaus, cia tevu kalte kad neturi visai kontroles.
Mane irgi kontroliavo, as pirma kompa gavau anksti, man nuo vaikystes labai patiko zaist zaidimus. Buciau turbut zaides visa para visa gyvenime. Tevai neleido. Kontroliavo, nes jie ne debilai ir zinojo kad pirma turiu proteli uzsiaugint, tada galesiu ka noresiu daryt. Baigiau mokslus ir problemu su niekuom neturejau, issikrausciau ir pradejau gyvent savarankiskai nuo 18. Ir visa ta laika pragyvenimui uzsidirbau is visokiu zaidimu. Nes tai yra tai ka as noriu daryt, as kazkoks issigimelis? Ne tiesiog gerai isaukletas protingas zmogus kuris daro tai ka nori daryti. Ir as niekam negadinu gyvenimo, niekam nuoskaudu nedarau ir niekam i akis nelendu.
Sitaip isauklek savo vaika, ir galesi but ramus kad jis bus laimingas ir visa visuomene bus laiminga.

O tu butent kaltini vaikus ir nematai didesnes problemos. Prie ko ir gryztam, koki vaika tu uzauginsi?
homofoba kuris dirbs statybose. Sekmes gyvenime.


WuKis [PM]
13 03 15 16:58 #20
Krc kaip matau su tuo tavo sarkazmu geriau neprasidet :D

1) Ar pritari, kad DABARTINEJE visuomeneje (e)sporto pagrindinis komponentas pats zaidimas neproporcingai labiau luosina visuomene tiek fiziskai (del nejudrumo) tiek psihiskai (del priklausomybes, saves nekontroliavimo, ugdymo sutrikimu) nei, kad duoda naudos atsakingai tai naudojantis?
2) Ar pritari, kad tai skelbti sportu yra per anksti DABARTINEI visuomenei, kadangi tie saves nekontroliuojantys zmoguciai gaus tiktai pateisinima del savo priklausomybes? (kuriu manau pritarsit yra labai daug daugiau nei, kad slaieris kuris sakosi atsakingai is to ir su tuo gyvenantis.) ?
Slayer [PM]
13 03 15 18:53 Redaguota: 2013-03-15 18:56 #21
1. Tu apibudinai ne esporta o priklausomybe BETKAM. Pakeisk zodi esportas i alkoholis, ir gausi nepakitusi teigini.
Nori sutaisyti priklausomybe, pradek nuo tevu kurie aukleja ir priziuri savo vaikus.
Esportas su priklausomybe kuria tu abibudinai neturi nieko bendro. Jei tevai leis vaikams zaisti farmville visa para ir susigadint gyvenima, tai bus ne vaiku, ne esporto kalte, o tevu.

2. Ne, nera per anksti, nes tai jau pribrendo prie to per daug daug metu. Tuo tarpu lietuvoje, zinoma ne, nes tai yra atsilikus salis del runkeliu kaip tu.

WuKis [PM]
13 03 15 19:02 #22
Sita.. Slejer,,, o tai tu gejus? nu tarp kitko, kad piksti tai klausiu.
Slayer [PM]
13 03 15 19:04 #23
Ne, Slayer nera taip sunku parasyt, aciu.
P|urban [PM]
13 03 15 19:14 #24
#22 o jei jis gejus butu? Rodytum savo mentaliteta? Man tai persasi mintis kad buvai priklausomas ir siuo metu bet kokia kaina bandai yrodyt savo tiesas, nemokant tvirtai argumentuotai pateikti savo pozicijos kyla agrasija ir bandai uzgauliojimo budu pasiekti savo ... Slayer mates dar netokiu per savo gyvenima ir tokie pinburniai nemanau kad paliks jam YspudY
WuKis [PM]
13 03 15 19:20 #25
suvaret
fel0n [PM]
13 03 16 18:24 #26
Nors pat nemazai laiko praleidziu prie zaidimu tokiu kaip Cs, Lol kurie tikrai gerai zinomi esporte vistik nemanau kad Esporta reiktu vadinti sportu suprantu kad tai gali buti panasu bet taip nera ir mano nuomone nereikia nei smerkti nei sakyti kad Esportas tai sportas. Geriausia butu tiesgiog Esporta laikyti kitokia sporto rusimi ir nebandyti ju gretinti tiesiog abiem leisti gyvuoti atskirai.
DZIO9|watafak [PM]
13 03 16 22:41 #27
#26 tai kad faktiskai esportas = sportas, ka tu nori laikyti ar nelaikyti sportu? Tai neisviangiama.
ISO [PM]
13 03 17 23:53 Redaguota: 2013-03-17 23:54 #28
Tai yra lošimas kaip koks pokeris, šachmatai etc (nors ir tą patį pokerį vadina sportu jau). Anaiptol lošiama yra dėl prizų, o ne asmeninės naudos (apart to kad išmoksti naujų wallbang\\\'ų ar taktikėlių) SPortininkai tai siekia rezultatų, rekordų, o tuos turnyriukus ir pan. prilyginčiau tiesiog laisvo laiko praleidimui ir pasivaržymui tarp savęs (pasirodymui prieš kitus, kaip kas moka). Mano nuomone tai yra ne sportas - o laisvalaiko praleidimas. (atskira tema apie additctus kurie parom iš namų neišeina ir žaidžia, o žaidžia ne del to jau, kad smagu, o kad aplenktų kažką kitą, ir daro tai žlugdydami savo asmeninį gyvenimą, bei smegenis) (dar ir čyterius steroidčikams galim prilygint). Žaidimai ir yra žaidimai, ne tam kad juos \\\"sportuot\\\", o tam, kad atsipalaiduot po darbo ir pan. taip pat pakovot su draugais kurie yra geriau įvaldę klaviatūrą. Nes bukint smegenis prie kompo per dieną ir kalt kažkokias taktikas tai tik savęs žalojimas (sportininkai bent raumenų užsiaugina ir pan siekdami rezultatų, o ne gadina akis ;P ).
DZIO9|watafak [PM]
13 03 18 03:41 #29
O kasis fule ne zaidimai?
Baitukas|japonaise [PM]
13 03 22 12:18 #30
formuojamos naujos vertybes;\\
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Why can't I find some functions that I need?
If you think that we are missing some functions that could improve website's quality, please write a personal message .

Who should I contact if I found offensive information or piracy?
Director or administrators, all the contacts could be find in contacts section.

eSportScene.com description.
eSportScene.com - a website that came from www.eSports.lt - the #1 eSports' source in Lithuania. The staff is willing that eSportScene.com would become as popular as its older brother - eSports.lt. It will cover the most popular games - Counter-Strike, Quake and Warcraft series. We will give you the hottest news from eSport's scene, cover the biggest events such as CPL, WCG, ESWC, organize high quality tournaments and much more!

We need You!
We need a lot of staff members (mostly ections Heads). If You are interested in this project, read the rest:
People, who would be interested in this project, please mail to info[eta]esportscene.com (replace [eta] with @), with the following information:
Important information for sections Heads
Your name:
Nick and link to Your eSportScene.com profile:
Age:
Country:
What section you will manage? (CS, CSS, Q3/Q4, WC3, TMN, other?)
How long do you follow Your section game scene:
Why should we choose exactly You?
Your Experience:
Do you have HTML basics?
Important information for Reporters
Your name:
Nick and link to Your eSportScene.com profile:
Age:
Country:
How long do you follow Your game scene:
Why should we choose exactly You?
Your Experience:
Do you have HTML basics?
You must contribute news item to our portal. It will be like example.

Of course, You must match several requirements:
+ Excellent English.
+ Older = better (Age).
+ Capability to work in team.
+ Knowledge of eSports / Your game scene.
+ Few hours of your time a day.
If your have serious intentions, mail us.




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